There was a whole language that I could never make function for myself in relationship to painting and that was attitudes like tortured, struggle, pain.
So that ideas of sort of relaxed symmetry have been something for years that I have been concerned with because I think that symmetry is a neutral shape as opposed to a form of design.
I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
You begin with the possibilities of the material.